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The Real Tay?
I'm having a hard time figuring out why I don't really enjoy the show anymore. I'm trying to find a replacement but can't find anything else either. And I do want the show to succeed but I guess I don't like how Taylor comes across anymore. When I started listening she was just dating B and her personality felt different. I'm not sure if her personality with him and the subsequent years was her trying to fit in and tampering down her true self and then the Taylor of the past 18 months is really her. Or is the Taylor of the past 18 months (who I find to be fame hungry, shallow, and often rude) is her just trying to find out who she really is and she'll land somewhere closer to before. I really kind of like the older Taylor with the self-deprecating humor, but the new one is obnoxious to me...others may disagree. The periscope and snap chat from yesterday really pissed me off but maybe she's just letting her true self shine since she's happier now and more comfortable? If that's the case, that's cool...id rather her be happy and health..:it just probably means she's not for me. I love/loved the show...but I've realize without Kenny it's not her current personality that I love.
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I think that's my biggest pet peeve. The drive to be famous for nothing. I personally hate reality TV and I guess that's what she's doing. It's getting her attention. But why be mean to her listeners? It's only going to drive people away. However maybe that's who she is?
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- Does Taylor exaggerate her accomplishments and say she have done things she haven’t really done? Does she act (feel) more important than others?
- Is she unrealistic about her thoughts and desires regarding love, beauty, success, and intelligence? Does she seek power in these things?
- Does she believe that she is so special and unique that only the very best institutions and the highest academic professionals could possibly understand her?
- Does she have an excessive need to be admired all the time?
- Does she have a sense of entitlement and expect to be treated differently, and with more status, than others?
- Does she exploit others to get what she wants or needs?
- Does she lack empathy and rarely see what others are feeling or needing? Can she put herself in other people’s shoes? Can she show empathy? Does she feel genuine empathy- not simply feigning concern and attention towards others in order to gain “supply” (such as approval, praise, recognition or favors)? Does she truly feel others pain? If she is empathetic she will seek to help others- not from a position of wanting to feed her ego- but because she truly would like to make a difference. This could include a wide range of activities like charity, volunteering, simply helping friends or people in the community in need, or sitting with a child and truly listening with her focus being on them- without making it about herrself. Genuine empathy is having concern for others without having an agenda for herself.
- Is she jealous and competitive with others or unreasonably think that others are jealous of her?
- Is she a haughty person who acts arrogant and superior to my friends, colleagues, and family?
"If you exhibit one or two of these characteristics you probably are a confident person with “healthy narcissism”. Five or more of these traits are necessary to be diagnosed with Narcisstic Personality Disorder (NPD) which is at the upper end of the spectrum."
I just googled narcissist checklist. cough.
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Yes but was she always like that? Narcissists are usually that way early on...at least the ones I know. Like does one become this way later in life or is it an act for some reason? Or was the old person an act. That's what I'm trying to figure out
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I homestly think she was always like that but it's become more and more extreme and prevalent over time as she is more "true" to herself, revealing the true depths of her narcissm. If you listen to stories she tells of her childhood, it's pretty evident it was there all along and cultivated by Babette.
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My mom always says people's personality traits, good or bad, get more pronounced as they get older. Not sure if it's true but I thought it was an interesting observation.
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Husbandpillow wrote:
I homestly think she was always like that but it's become more and more extreme and prevalent over time as she is more "true" to herself, revealing the true depths of her narcissm. If you listen to stories she tells of her childhood, it's pretty evident it was there all along and cultivated by Babette.
!!!!!! This x 1000! Especially the cultivated by her mom.....
I listen to Tay retell stories of her horrible SIL's and how they tortured her and picked her apart for her body but that was happening by her mom long before they ever came into the picture......
The forcing her on weight watchers because she gained college weight.
The suggesting a teenage Tay should diet because a boy didn't like her.
The eating for comfort/body shaming cycle....
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Didn't she first go on weight watchers really young? Like 13 or 16?
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Ahhh yes you guys make total sense!!! I have forgotten about many of those stories. My brother and sister are both narcissists probably in large part due to my mom. I am sure I have some of those traits as well
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She said on I think Friday's show, her mom let her stay home from school when she was in a fight with someone or someone was mean to her. Can't remember which one, but I thought that was crazy. What a terrible message to send to a child and I usually don't put down other parent's decisions.
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- Does Taylor exaggerate her accomplishments and say she have done things she haven’t really done? Does she act (feel) more important than others?
- Is she unrealistic about her thoughts and desires regarding love, beauty, success, and intelligence? Does she seek power in these things?
- Does she believe that she is so special and unique that only the very best institutions and the highest academic professionals could possibly understand her?
- Does she have an excessive need to be admired all the time?
- Does she have a sense of entitlement and expect to be treated differently, and with more status, than others?
- Does she exploit others to get what she wants or needs?
- Does she lack empathy and rarely see what others are feeling or needing? Can she put herself in other people’s shoes? Can she show empathy? Does she feel genuine empathy- not simply feigning concern and attention towards others in order to gain “supply” (such as approval, praise, recognition or favors)? Does she truly feel others pain? If she is empathetic she will seek to help others- not from a position of wanting to feed her ego- but because she truly would like to make a difference. This could include a wide range of activities like charity, volunteering, simply helping friends or people in the community in need, or sitting with a child and truly listening with her focus being on them- without making it about herrself. Genuine empathy is having concern for others without having an agenda for herself.
- Is she jealous and competitive with others or unreasonably think that others are jealous of her?
- Is she a haughty person who acts arrogant and superior to my friends, colleagues, and family?
"If you exhibit one or two of these characteristics you probably are a confident person with “healthy narcissism”. Five or more of these traits are necessary to be diagnosed with Narcisstic Personality Disorder (NPD) which is at the upper end of the spectrum."
I just googled narcissist checklist. cough.
Wouldn't this be character traits for every person in the public eye?
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it's pretty evident it was there all along and cultivated by Babette.
I have ALWAYS thought this. The fact that Babette had to transfer schools because of mean girls, and Taylor did the exact same thing too always stood out to me. I don't think her actions were intentional or malicious by any means, but I think Babette has done a lot of damage to Taylor over the years.
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Pio I think most entertainers are actually diagnosable narcissists. I know actors are at the very least...at least ones I've had the pleasure of working with. It makes them good at their craft but terrible at real life.
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As someone who has worked in the mental health field, I personally can't stand it when people who are not trained or have never actually met a person try to diagnose them. You can dislike her, hate her, love her, not understand her but you can't diagnose her with anything. To some degree, she is playing a character so as much as we'd like to think we KNOW her, we only see a side of her. She is likely very multifaceted, just like we all are. NPD is the thing people like to diagnose others with when they simply don't like them. Listen to Dr. Laura for like 15 minutes and you'll probably hear at least one person diagnose their spouse, mother, in law, co worker, etc. with NPD.
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As someone who has worked in the mental health field, I personally can't stand it when people who are not trained or have never actually met a person try to diagnose them. You can dislike her, hate her, love her, not understand her but you can't diagnose her with anything. To some degree, she is playing a character so as much as we'd like to think we KNOW her, we only see a side of her. She is likely very multifaceted, just like we all are. NPD is the thing people like to diagnose others with when they simply don't like them. Listen to Dr. Laura for like 15 minutes and you'll probably hear at least one person diagnose their spouse, mother, in law, co worker, etc. with NPD.
Chelchel I just sent you a private message - I might need your professional services for an issue I'm having with family.
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You can dislike her, hate her, love her, not understand her but you can't diagnose her with anything. To some degree, she is playing a character so as much as we'd like to think we KNOW her, we only see a side of her. She is likely very multifaceted, just like we all are.
Well said -- very much agree with this. As an educator, I see this in my own personality transformation within the classroom or with parents. I stand firm knowing I remain my true self within the workplace, but it is true that I do shift into this character, 'performing' in front of an audience. It's a balanced paradox of subconscious subtleties with postured performances, and it's in all of us. I applied (auditioned) for this position (character) and now work (perform) in this field (stage),