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One thing is for sure. Dinner+ booze cruise + goodie bag does not add up to $1400....I don't understand how someone can flagrantly lie to defend their point. It's so obvious Taylor was trying to rip her listeners off.
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FKFriday wrote:
micdrop wrote:
wait, where did you see Babette chiming in?
babettestrecker@mssara11 How dare you pretend to know ANYTHING about a situation you know NOTHING about!!!!.....and then to spread vicious rumors and lies about Taylor trying to scam her audience......you obviously don't listen to her show or know anything about her love and appreciation for them.....She was ACTUALLY going to spend her own personal vacation time in Turks and Caicos with the listeners she has come to love over the last 11 years paid for 100% percent by HERSELF.
So where was the rest of the money going???
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This is all just too entertaining. Babette surely will be here any second now to set us straight.
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I'm wondering though if maybe it didn't have anything to do with the trip? If that was the reason and there were lawyers involved, I would assume they would be told not to talk about it? Like couldn't Momma lying publicly get Tay in massive trouble??
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FKF, I am not a lawyer by any means (and I know very little about the law), but how do you figure she could get in trouble for her mother lying? Not sure what grounds Babette would be violating. The trip is out there and everything is documented, so I feel like there is no going back on the fact that she was planning on doing it.
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Is her mom for real!? lol I only started listening a few years ago and that started as hate listening. I find it entertaining but I'm a pretty casual listener so I've missed a lot of these things being referenced. I didn't give it much thought but I assumed she exaggerated the drama side of things to make herself seem more like a reality personality. Like, her real drama level is a 5 but she amps it up to an 8 for entertainment for the show kind of thing. After seeing what her mom posted, obviously I was pretty wrong.Β
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greattaste wrote:
FKF, I am not a lawyer by any means (and I know very little about the law), but how do you figure she could get in trouble for her mother lying? Not sure what grounds Babette would be violating. The trip is out there and everything is documented, so I feel like there is no going back on the fact that she was planning on doing it.
I guess that makes more sense! Anytime I've known anyone to be involved in legal stuff, its been hush hush. If the cause of her being fired was the trip, I'm surprised her mom is out there talking about it. You're probably right though and It wouldn't make a difference as its all out there.
I wonder what the extra money was for then? Like Babette did her Dads books, she can add, she would know that's not adding up right?
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FKFriday wrote:
micdrop wrote:
wait, where did you see Babette chiming in?
babettestrecker@mssara11 How dare you pretend to know ANYTHING about a situation you know NOTHING about!!!!.....and then to spread vicious rumors and lies about Taylor trying to scam her audience......you obviously don't listen to her show or know anything about her love and appreciation for them.....She was ACTUALLY going to spend her own personal vacation time in Turks and Caicos with the listeners she has come to love over the last 11 years paid for 100% percent by HERSELF.
So where was the rest of the money going???
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Wowzers. Good thing Taylor will never have a reality show becaus ol' Babs would stroke out over the Internet commentary.
I do think this post is very telling of their dynamic. How can she beleive this was really about "loving her listeners"? As has been said before, she would have an event that doesn't COST $1,400 AND REQUIRE A PASSPORT.
ETA it also stands to reason that Taylor would only do an event like this under these circumstances so she won't have to hang out with "poor" listeners. Heaven forbid she have an event in NYC and *gasp* listeners travel through the Port Authority to see her. π
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Saw these comments, couldn't find what they were in reference to though
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WOW!!! Leave the board for a few hours to attempt to be productive and I miss a Babette fight! I don't even know what to say to that.....Β
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"Someone posted that they are being victimized by Sirius. Annnnd I'm pretty sure they were not kidding. "
LOL!!!
Hi everyone! I'm a newbie and don't really get a chance to stalk and develop theories on FB. I do love Taylor and the show, and have been equally curious as to what the EFF is going on. I never knew this existed, again because I don't have much time... not to say ya'll do but, I just have been so satisfied with listening to the show that i haven't sought out anything else. Β
I had to reply to this comment in particular because it made me LOL so hard! I read that on FB and was like "I don't understand this question."Β
Anyway HI!Β
Edit: I've been trying to post this comment for over 2 hours in-between dinner, visitors and children... I guess I quoted wrong? I have no time to figure it out. Sorry!Β
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Is Babette trying to say Taylor was not getting her room comped?
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Hawr-rible wrote:
WOW!!! Leave the board for a few hours to attempt to be productive and I miss a Babette fight! I don't even know what to say to that.....Β
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Right??? WTAF is happening? Holy cow.... π³
Also: Hey newbies!! ππΌ
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WhereIsVictoria wrote:
Omg the Carin video, I can't even... what on earth?! People... nobody died. She looked like she had been crying and went on for 20 minutes giving us the sad story of how she is trying to ride the coat tails of our lil' glass of 'Secco (probably more appropriate than espresso at this point, no?) and her train has stopped. I have a really hard time listening to someone talk about being a "Happiness Guru" whose happiness can be so affected by someone else losing her job! Also, Mary FourNames needs to STFU. If you're not pouring the tea, don't pretend there is anything in that pitcher. I have had laser-focused concentration at work today... on this issue. Ha ha ha, oh Lord!
LOL! I didn't watch it.Β
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Welp, ladies and gentleman, now we actual proof as to why Taylor is the way she is! Batshit Babette to the rescue! Thanks Babs, now we all finally understand where Taylor's delusions come from!
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So f she was using her own money and vacation time to go then was katie expected to do the same???
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Also, taking her own vacation time to BE ON VACATION and have listeners pay you $1,000 a peice to VACATION WITH YOU IN T&C?!?!? π€£π€£π€£
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I say this because Iβve had this theory in my mind that maybe Katie went to Sirius to verify she would be paid for the days and her expenses covered and thatβs when the whole thing unraveled.
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Before all this went down, I had asked if the entire team was going. Taylor never made mention on Air that Katie would be going but if theyβre going to record I would assume she would be. I kind of have a feeling hat the βtaping an hour of the showβ was kind of just thrown in there, thatβs the part I donβt think they thought through very well, amongst everything else. Maybe she thought she could just tape it on her phone or something.
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Maybe so. I mean if Katie brought it up to management I wouldnβt blame her and I doubt she had any ill will but I bet Taylor didnβt consider bringing along Katie and any other necessary equipment
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was Katie going? I didn't see any indication that she was or wasn't, necessarily, I guess I was under the impression that she wasn't part of it.
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Lol sorry guys I didn't refresh before commenting
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I didn't get the impression that Katie was going, but maybe?
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Hawr-rible wrote:
WOW!!! Leave the board for a few hours to attempt to be productive and I miss a Babette fight! I don't even know what to say to that.....Β
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We need to get some answers and let this go because my production level is at an all time low. Thank god itβs slow at work! πΉ
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Wakeupfan420 wrote:
was Katie going? I didn't see any indication that she was or wasn't, necessarily, I guess I was under the impression that she wasn't part of it.
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During the big announcement, Taylor did say "we" are going to record a Wake Up segment in the beach and will broadcast it on a later date.
Given that Katie is the producer and only other full-time employee of the show, that would imply she is a part of the "we".
Taylor also spoke very matter of fact about her travel dates to make me think she had already booked her airline tickets.
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The fact that Babs responded with such venom makes me think that maybe this was all due to the trip. And actually my mom would probably defend me just as much...but she wouldnβt be able to figure out Instagram so it would end up in cyberspace somewhere.
I actually am feeling pretty awful for Taylor. Imagine you honestly being so stupid that you just think this is the way trips are done and then bam you lose the only business/job youβve had for the last 12 years. And itβs not an easy business to pick yourself up from. I canβt imagine she went into it saying, βLet me scam my listenersβ. It was probably more along the lines of, βLet me try and get some things comped by combining this with work.β Not to say thatβs the right thing to do I just donβt think she meant it with harm. And as much as I think wakeup shouldβve been cancelled in time due to her being lazy and phoning it in (and lack of listeners due to that), itβs pretty awful when you are fired because you are stupid.
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But replace "stupid" with "greedy as fuck", because that's what it is.
Last edited by Husbandpillow (10/18/2017 6:58 pm)
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I felt bad for her too until we put the pieces together and I still feel bad and miss the show but after ten years she shouldβve known better, her team shouldβve known better
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Durst_Burp wrote:
FKFriday wrote:
micdrop wrote:
wait, where did you see Babette chiming in?
babettestrecker@mssara11 How dare you pretend to know ANYTHING about a situation you know NOTHING about!!!!.....and then to spread vicious rumors and lies about Taylor trying to scam her audience......you obviously don't listen to her show or know anything about her love and appreciation for them.....She was ACTUALLY going to spend her own personal vacation time in Turks and Caicos with the listeners she has come to love over the last 11 years paid for 100% percent by HERSELF.
So where was the rest of the money going???
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Wowzers. Good thing Taylor will never have a reality show becaus ol' Babs would stroke out over the Internet commentary.
I do think this post is very telling of their dynamic. How can she beleive this was really about "loving her listeners"? As has been said before, she would have an event that doesn't COST $1,400 AND REQUIRE A PASSPORT.
ETA it also stands to reason that Taylor would only do an event like this under these circumstances so she won't have to hang out with "poor" listeners. Heaven forbid she have an event in NYC and *gasp* listeners travel through the Port Authority to see her. π
Yes. Taylor would have spent 4 hours of her vacation (10 days?) with the listeners. With her own hard earned money... Bwah. Then why charge 1400.00???? Doh! The money for her vacay was coming from the listeners. I knew that Babette was as delusional as her daughter.
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I posted the same a few pages back, I feel bad and think it was just sheer stupidity that landed her here. She isn't going to bounce back well, and I feel really awful for her about that.
Now, if we're the basement trolls, can the FB group get a nickname??? They're now off posting on the XM wall that she was cancelled because Howard (at $20mil/year) was jealous of her popularity and had her shut down π
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Husbandpillow wrote:
But replace "stupid" with "greedy as fuck", because that's what it is.
It was greed for sure. She didn'tΒ wake up thinking I'mΒ going to con my listeners, but she certainly did wake up and think, Hmmmmmmm how can I get a vacay paid for? I know I'll get my listeners to pay.Β There is no grey area here. AT her best shes a very stupid girl for doing this. At her worst is her greed.