I emailed the show asking for a Survivor segment on Thursdays since she was a fan now lol...I guess we'll never know what could've been!

DestinationAwesometown wrote:

piopio12 wrote:

The needing #Ad or whatever does make the most sense to me as why she was dismissed.

 
Wasn't she using Dr V as her dentist too?! I don't ever recall seeing #ad on any posting with her. This could apply to any number of guest and foodie finds in which she was getting free services and products and never promoted as such.

Taylor said recently (and I'm sure 100 other times) she gets free dinners at nice restaurants so she'll talk about them on air.

I think a lot of that is part of the job, and why it may have never occurred to her (them?) that the trip would be an issue. That was just a little too far though.

Self-aware wrote:

DestinationAwesometown wrote:

piopio12 wrote:

The needing #Ad or whatever does make the most sense to me as why she was dismissed.

 
Wasn't she using Dr V as her dentist too?! I don't ever recall seeing #ad on any posting with her. This could apply to any number of guest and foodie finds in which she was getting free services and products and never promoted as such.

Taylor said recently (and I'm sure 100 other times) she gets free dinners at nice restaurants so she'll talk about them on air.

Can I take a moment to say thank god we never have to hear another Toof Talk!
 

PRAISE!

DestinationAwesometown wrote:

WhereIsVictoria wrote:

Okay best explanation yet...

https://www.allaccess.com/fcc-uncensored/archive/303/payola-and-plugola-fcc-fines-made-easy

Pretty much, if she’s accepted services for plugging this event (like a free trip) but not disclosed those services to station management prior to broadcast, it’s a violation of the law. Also, there are some conflicts of interest in her plugging her own non-broadcast activities on air. So, that’s probably it. She was probably doing her weekend gig and at the end of the night they told her not to come back.

 
Sirius might have their own similar rules, but FCC does not regulate satellite radio.

 
FCC most certainly does regulate satellite radio. Just that there is more flexibility with vulgar language because this is a paid subscription service.

So- I have 13- years of radio under my belt.  The unsanctioned trip (if I could make an educated guess) is the most likely reason of why she was fired.  

1- She's acting as a representative of Sirius (which did not approve/sponsor/arrange the trip) and using the platform to make money for herself.  That's in no doubt a violation of her contract ("misrepresentation").
2- She stands to make around $1,000 off each participant.  Sirius doesn't get any of that money.  When personalities book gigs (i.e. your local jock at a car dealership, hosting trivia night, emceeing an event, etc) they get paid what is called a "talent fee" by the advertiser (i.e. the venue) and the broadcast entity gets the rest.  In mid-markets this is usually $100-$500/ gig depending on length.  Sirius is more (not much more-- don't be fooled just because it's satellite) but it is most certainly not that much more.  
3- She's having people send their credit card information to an unsecured email address... I mean, all email account have a password and all but it isn't that hard to break into an email account... Especially with all of these fresh credit card numbers just hanging out in there... You know?  I mean, not everyone who listens to the show is an upstanding citizen.  
4- We are teetering on payola/plugola territory.  This is the same rule that has made it so radio DJs cannot get a ton of free concert tickets anymore :-/.  We cannot accept money personally in order to plug or promote your product/service/etc... So, if Taylor (a) had a vested interest in the hotel/travel company/etc (i.e. a friend owns it) and she would get a kickback that is, indeed, pay for play (and illegal).  Each of the people giving their credit card info (if charged) would then have grounds to sue Taylor, Sirius, etc. 
5- If anything happened on that trip... Can you think of the mess Sirius would be in?  If someone was hurt, died, went missing, etc.?  Taylor herself would end up getting sued (and, if you cannot afford a decent divorce attorney, no WAY are you getting out of that).  Here it comes full circle:  If she were representing herself and the trip as Sirius, that entity would also be sued, etc.  

It just makes sense.  And she may not be able to comment about it because, if she has already accepted money, she's entering into a legal shit hole.

SorryNotSorry wrote:

So- I have 13- years of radio under my belt.  The unsanctioned trip (if I could make an educated guess) is the most likely reason of why she was fired.  

1- She's acting as a representative of Sirius (which did not approve/sponsor/arrange the trip) and using the platform to make money for herself.  That's in no doubt a violation of her contract ("misrepresentation").
2- She stands to make around $1,000 off each participant.  Sirius doesn't get any of that money.  When personalities book gigs (i.e. your local jock at a car dealership, hosting trivia night, emceeing an event, etc) they get paid what is called a "talent fee" by the advertiser (i.e. the venue) and the broadcast entity gets the rest.  In mid-markets this is usually $100-$500/ gig depending on length.  Sirius is more (not much more-- don't be fooled just because it's satellite) but it is most certainly not that much more.  
3- She's having people send their credit card information to an unsecured email address... I mean, all email account have a password and all but it isn't that hard to break into an email account... Especially with all of these fresh credit card numbers just hanging out in there... You know?  I mean, not everyone who listens to the show is an upstanding citizen.  
4- We are teetering on payola/plugola territory.  This is the same rule that has made it so radio DJs cannot get a ton of free concert tickets anymore :-/.  We cannot accept money personally in order to plug or promote your product/service/etc... So, if Taylor (a) had a vested interest in the hotel/travel company/etc (i.e. a friend owns it) and she would get a kickback that is, indeed, pay for play (and illegal).  Each of the people giving their credit card info (if charged) would then have grounds to sue Taylor, Sirius, etc. 
5- If anything happened on that trip... Can you think of the mess Sirius would be in?  If someone was hurt, died, went missing, etc.?  Taylor herself would end up getting sued (and, if you cannot afford a decent divorce attorney, no WAY are you getting out of that).  Here it comes full circle:  If she were representing herself and the trip as Sirius, that entity would also be sued, etc.  

It just makes sense.  And she may not be able to comment about it because, if she has already accepted money, she's entering into a legal shit hole.

I wonder if anyone had sent their CC info in a rush to secure a spot on the trip? If so, that does create another layer of legal trouble.
 

Most of the sports and entertainment managers I know (I know a handful) are actually lawyers first. It’s really hard to be an effective manager without a law degree. I actually started college with the intention of being an agent and then hated the “talent”. I can’t stand egos.

Last edited by Longtimelistener (10/18/2017 12:44 pm)

Agains this is why she should’ve had a manager to protect her from this. I have a feeling she’s in really deep. Or could have been. Getting fired may be the least of her worries. It’s such an Amateur thing she did.

If only plug and play applied to politicians!  How do we make that happen!?!  haha!  

I think we nailed it, girls!  So what will happen?? Taylor in an orange jumpsuit?  Reduced to a local FM radio morning show host?  Selling real estate in Mass, living in her parents basement?  
I don't think we'll hear her on radio ever again.

WhosBecky? wrote:

If only plug and play applied to politicians!  How do we make that happen!?!  haha!  

I think we nailed it, girls!  So what will happen?? Taylor in an orange jumpsuit?  Reduced to a local FM radio morning show host?  Selling real estate in Mass, living in her parents basement?  
I don't think we'll hear her on radio ever again.

I'm literally laughing at this - she's talked about sleeping in her parents' basement before too. Now who's the basement dweller?!

Does the FCC have some control or interest in Podcasts??  I'm guessing not, but I bet they're trying!
Seems like a few I listen to are very conscious of saying what's an ad and what isn't.  I'd be willing to bet T gets off by saying she will no longer work in radio (if she's lucky).  I'm guessing the FCC and her legal team have said no talk, no podcast, no nothing until its sorted out.

Thank you sorry not sorry. I posted about plug/play in the fb group but clearly people with no knowledge of media were discounting and excusing away my very plausible reason.


Also anyone want to theorize when Tay goes back to “breadwinner” men? I say 6 months

SoftPretzels wrote:

Thank you sorry not sorry. I posted about plug/play in the fb group but clearly people with no knowledge of media were discounting and excusing away my very plausible reason.


Also anyone want to theorize when Tay goes back to “breadwinner” men? I say 6 months

 
If this happens, I don't even know, I'll be so pissed though. TD seems like such a doll, I hate to think Taylor would drop her if things got hard. Maybe that's better for TD though. Ugh 😕

So a girl posted links to her sound cloud where she had downloaded some of the WUWT clips/episodes. THE VERY FIRST ONE I LISTENED TOO was during a fat kid Friday and Taylor says “ if I lose this gig can I come work with you” considering the circumstances it was just too ironic

SorryNotSorry wrote:

SoftPretzels wrote:

Thank you sorry not sorry. I posted about plug/play in the fb group but clearly people with no knowledge of media were discounting and excusing away my very plausible reason.


Also anyone want to theorize when Tay goes back to “breadwinner” men? I say 6 months

Happy to help!  Honestly it's all super sketchy and quasi-illegal.  I feel bad for her in a way but, honestly, it was not a well-thought out plan.  While I'm on-air in a mid-sized market (compared to #1 market and satellite), Taylor and I have the same amount of years in radio.  I feel like she would know that this was a bad idea so it's really confusing.  

I do not think it will be easy for her to get another radio gig.  Someone mentioned real estate... Real estate, car sales and communications/PR are the natural progression following a career in radio so any of those would make sense.  If Taylor could get herself in to a decent market in the Boston 'burbs she could probably make a killing in real estate.  

IMHO television will not work out.  Radio personalities do not always translate well on to television... We're used to (for instance) staring at the wall when we talk rather than engaging with people, we do weird fidgety things while rattling off live reads or reading headlines, we aren't totally aware of our facial expressions (because, again, no one can see us).  They are two very different mediums and it's difficult to seamlessly transition.  While I appreciate that Taylor's D-list friends are attempting to help her get auditions I just don't see it actually working out for her... 

 
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