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4/03/2017 9:52 am  #4171


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I didn't mean it as an insult. Just pointed out I don't think English was her first language therefore the comment may of seemed rude when in fact it was not.

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4/03/2017 9:54 am  #4172


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Got it. It's so hard to read tone in text. Sorry, I misinterpreted.

 

4/03/2017 9:39 pm  #4173


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Speaking of second languages, I'm beginning to wonder what Taylor speaks. Today, when she and Carly were talking about sports they hate, Taylor kept calling it, "the baseball." As in, "When you watch the baseball, don't you get bored? I really hate the baseball." (I really don't think she added 'game' on the end more than once, yet she said it 4-5 times!).

She also said she, "flicked off Derek Jeter." Is that a NY thing? (Saying "flicked" instead of "flipped"...not doing it to Derek Jeter!) Crazy girl!

 

4/04/2017 8:25 am  #4174


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Today Taylor was discussing something she often brings up, how she doesn't feel like she should have to go out of he way to see friends with young kids. She wants them to visit her to and reciprocate. I'd love to get all of your views on this. I have 2.5 young children (pregnant with my 3rd) and although I often try to see friends who don't have kids or go to them, it's generally not really feasible. My friends are understanding and in all honesty I don't really expect them to come to us either. I consider these the dark days of childhood and once they are older and can travel easier this will be just a blip in the past. That's why we end up making new friends who are parents with children of similar age.

That being said, before I even had children I understood what a challenging time this is for those parents and would always try to accommodate their lifestyle in order to visit them. Taylor has no compassion for this but I'm wondering if that's just because it's her personality or if those of you in similar situations really don't want to put forth the extra effort for your friends with children.

 

4/04/2017 8:40 am  #4175


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I have a 5 and 2 year old. I only have a couple of friends without kids and I honestly just don't see them often. If we do a dinner or activity with our group of friends, I'll catch up then but I don't even talk to them on the phone (not a phone call girl but text often). I don't expect them to come to me either.

We are just at vastly different times in our lives. I have trouble relating to them and vice versa. I just gravitate to my friends with kids because we relate better right now.

 

4/04/2017 9:16 am  #4176


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This has nothing to do with kids or no kids.  Maintaining friendships of any kind requires effort.  

 

4/04/2017 9:57 am  #4177


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I was waiting with bated breath to see if they would have that awful Claudia girl back. Thank god she's not. I really don't think that they could ignore a whole thread of listeners saying that they wouldn't tune in if she was on(or maybe I'm naive, ha,ha).

 

4/04/2017 10:17 am  #4178


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Did I hear it correctly that Taylor and today's co-host (missed who it was today) say that they hated the movie The Breakfast Club????? There are just certain movies that you just can't not like and The Breakfast Club is one of them. TBC is an absolute classic. Great cast. Great story. Great message. 

 

4/04/2017 11:01 am  #4179


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Youcaan do you have kids? The reason I bring it up is although I would love to have the same relationship with my friends that I had before, I literally can't. I work around activities, nap schedules, eating schedules. If I factor in hour plus travel time, there's no time left to visit said friends. All friendships require work but when I had kids it changed the dynamic. So I appreciate my friends who don't have children and are willing to come to us from time to time (because of course we don't live within the same towns or even the same states), but I don't expect them too. They do try from time to time but having kids changed my abilities. It is much easier for me to connect with my friends who do have children because they are in the same boat and have limited abilities as well but or timing coincides. They won't mind meeting up at a playspace...my friends without Children would hate it. However going back to Taylor's issue, yeah most of the time if we want to connect they have to come to us. And if they mind then it's fine, I don't hold it against them, but they realize me going to them on a normal day is almost impossible.

 

4/04/2017 12:24 pm  #4180


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I happened to hear most of the discussion today about friends and kids and don't think what Taylor was saying was as bad as it usually sounds. Here's my take...
I don't have kids and have/had many friends who do. What I find is it really, really depends on the new mother to take care of the friendship. I completely understand that you don't have near the amount of time anymore but new moms have to put some effort in because otherwise the child-free person feels like they are nagging the mom and being selfish by continually requesting her time when the new mom doesn't respond or accept. I was pretty close to one friend who fell off the map after she had a baby. I didn't expect a quick reply but she would go weeks without responding. That's all cool but when i know you hang out with your mother friends, I figure you have moved on from the friendship and that I should too.
We don't want to be annoying so please reach out when you can. 
I have other friends with kids who value their non-mom time and make sure to see friends as much as they can!
I think chelchel is right when she says it's more about having vastly different lives and not the child-free person being wrong.

 

4/04/2017 1:31 pm  #4181


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i am so tired of hearing Tay talking about the kid issue. I honestly think nearly every show probably in the last month she has brought up how she doesn't really want kids but Taylor D does. It is mentioned so much. Why? Taylor we know you aren't sold on having kids, we know you love TD so much that you're willing to have a kid with her for her. We get it. STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. Find something new to talk about. I would think its hard for TD to hear this kind of talk constantly.

I loved hearing Tay talk about Kenny though. Kind of made me emotional because I still miss him.
 

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4/04/2017 1:35 pm  #4182


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Yes! It made me miss Kenny too.

 

4/04/2017 1:38 pm  #4183


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They'll never find another Kenny it is true. I like "Open Wider" the podcast but I think Kenny has the talent to do more. It sucks.

LilEffer wrote:

Yes! It made me miss Kenny too.

 

 

4/04/2017 1:49 pm  #4184


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micdrop wrote:

They'll never find another Kenny it is true. I like "Open Wider" the podcast but I think Kenny has the talent to do more. It sucks.

LilEffer wrote:

Yes! It made me miss Kenny too.

 

 
Wish he'd visit and be a guest cohost one day

 

4/04/2017 2:07 pm  #4185


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LilEffer wrote:

micdrop wrote:

They'll never find another Kenny it is true. I like "Open Wider" the podcast but I think Kenny has the talent to do more. It sucks.

LilEffer wrote:

Yes! It made me miss Kenny too.

 

 
Wish he'd visit and be a guest cohost one day

Unfortunately i doubt that'll happen. apparently he and Sirius didn't leave on such great terms. I guess he was going to try to do the show remotely from PA and offered that option up to Sirius instead of leaving completely but they turned it down or they said okay but decreased his salary. I don't think he made what I thought he did doing the show. Anyway, I would love to have him come on, it would be amazing. He called in once but the cohost that day was so rude towards him.
 

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4/04/2017 2:56 pm  #4186


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I am so sick of this topic as well!!!!!!! We get it, lives change after kids.  its your excuse for being a shitty friend.  CAN WE PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!! Do no higher ups listen....ever???

 

4/04/2017 6:30 pm  #4187


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Choosing to have or not have children must come from oneself. This is not picking a restaurant for a Saturday night  dinner! Making a decision like this because of your love for a partner will only lead to disaster. When you are sleep deprived and up at 3am for the third time, the last thing on your mind is the love for your significant  other.

 

4/04/2017 7:31 pm  #4188


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LilEffer wrote:

Yes, English is a second language.  I think she was complimenting Taylor.

 
I agree. It definitely sounded like a very nice compliment.

 

4/04/2017 7:38 pm  #4189


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As a parent of twins I get what Tay was trying to say...... she feels judged or that the expectation of seeing friends with kids is on childless friends because they have "less baggage." Which in my opinion is not fair..... there needs to be an understanding that sometimes things change, people's time commitments change, as well as availability. I have friends without kids and know that the responsibility of maintaining the friendship is and should be shared. So far it's worked out great...Onnce they let me take 5 minutes to vomit out what I need to about the annoyances of parenting toddlers it's so much more fun to listen to them share their single-life drama with me.

 

4/04/2017 10:23 pm  #4190


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meepmeep wrote:

Choosing to have or not have children must come from oneself. This is not picking a restaurant for a Saturday night dinner! Making a decision like this because of your love for a partner will only lead to disaster. When you are sleep deprived and up at 3am for the third time, the last thing on your mind is the love for your significant other.

Not to mention, if things don't work out with your partner, you now have kids, and if it wasn't what you really wanted, how good of a parent will you be?

 

4/05/2017 4:38 am  #4191


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I didn't hear this episode but I have to agree with those who said this has nothing to do with Taylor's friend's having children. She cannot maintain friendships anyway. Everything in her life is out of convenience, so if someone is inconvenient, peace out.
I don't have children, but most of my friends do, and we both make an effort. That's what it takes. Sometimes they get a sitter and we meet for dinner, sometimes the kiddos come along. Sometimes I go to their house, sometimes they come to me. If you love your friend dearly, it is worth it.
If you're a selfish person, like Taylor, justifying why you haven't seen them is easier than the effort.

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4/05/2017 6:23 am  #4192


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BathiesTime wrote:

If you love your friend dearly, it is worth it.

This! I don't have children, but many of my friends do, and I am always more than willing to travel to meet up whenever and wherever is convenient for them. And if their kids are around, great! I love their kids!

I think it's generally understood that parenting can be overwhelming, and in order to maintain friendships with the important people in my life I am okay with going out of my way and/or rearrange my schedule. Hopefully someday they will do the same for me (there's certainly no expectation that they would, but it would be nice ;) ).

So... agreed that she is being selfish in not wanting to "inconvenience" herself when she doesn't seem to have that much going on besides drinking wine in the bathtub, hanging out with her gf, and "all" of her work.
 

 

4/05/2017 6:32 am  #4193


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Hi, Secco!
How are you feeling lately? A while back I replied to a thread you had started about a recent breakup. Just wanted to check on ya.
Hope all is well.
 

 

4/05/2017 7:00 am  #4194


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BathiesTime wrote:

Hi, Secco!
How are you feeling lately? A while back I replied to a thread you had started about a recent breakup. Just wanted to check on ya.
Hope all is well.
 

Hey gal! Argh, sorry, I must have missed your response... dumb "other pages." Ha.

I've been doing really well, thank you!  Got over my a-hole ex, and have found a much better guy who is, you know, actually nice to me! (*head explodes*)

Thanks for remembering my drama, and caring! You're too sweet

 

4/05/2017 8:10 am  #4195


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I heard that segment and since I'm a mom and a grandma, I have a bit of experience. What frustrated me the most (aside from the number of times Taylor said, "like" in that rant she was on...holy hell!!!) was this: Taylor and Lilliana could not wrap their heads around the information given when the parents called in. The callers tried to explain the level of difference in being exhausted & the demands required of you when you are a parent vs. when you are child-free (Lilliana's words) and in the working world.

What I think they were missing the point on is that at one time or another most (not all) of these women had the experience of being busy, exhausted, "busting their asses off" child-free people FIRST... so yes! they actually COULD compare the 2 experiences, and they were trying to explain exactly that. But T and L would hang up and say, "They don't understand what it's like to bust your ass off for your job..."

BTW- I do agree with them that we should support one another, no matter what we are doing. But honestly, that means "Give and take...get and give." If you've  listened long enough, you know that T prefers the "getting" over the "giving."

 

4/05/2017 8:16 am  #4196


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I actually asked my mom friends about this the other day because I wanted their input as well and one of them said that yes before kids there's no way she could understand why people wouldn't meet up with her in the city to go out after having kids. And now she totally gets it. So maybe it's just one of those things you can't understand until you are put in that situation. I was always around children even before having them so I guess it was hard to me to relate to opinions like Taylor's where she feels it's unfair for her to go out of her way, but yes if the friendship means that much you'll do whatever it takes on both sides.

 

4/05/2017 10:42 am  #4197


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as a parent I loathed hearing the other moms call in to say basically "Don't tell me you're tired. You don't know what tired is until you have a kid." It's the same condescending attitude I would see twin moms spout to singleton moms.... as if their cross is heavier.

We made the conscious (and some of us not) decision to have child(ren)..... why am I going to shame or take it out on a woman who is choosing different in her life?

 

4/05/2017 12:45 pm  #4198


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SoftPretzels wrote:

as a parent I loathed hearing the other moms call in to say basically "Don't tell me you're tired. You don't know what tired is until you have a kid."

I HATE people like that. I hate the people who act like don't know what being busy or tired is.
I hate the moms that act like their life didn't have meaning until they became a mother.

And I found out, the other day, that my brother may have turned into someone I hate... lol... because he pulled the "you don't know what love is until you become a parent" so I replied with "oh, so if I don't have children, I'll never know what trrrruuue love is?" and he just grinned.

 

4/05/2017 12:51 pm  #4199


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SoftPretzels wrote:

as a parent I loathed hearing the other moms call in to say basically "Don't tell me you're tired. You don't know what tired is until you have a kid." It's the same condescending attitude I would see twin moms spout to singleton moms.... as if their cross is heavier.

We made the conscious (and some of us not) decision to have child(ren)..... why am I going to shame or take it out on a woman who is choosing different in her life?

 
I don't think I ever said that (but it's kind of true 😉). My kids didn't sleep through the night until they were two years old-- so two years without a night of uninterrupted sleep. But I got used to it. I learned how to deal with it.

Now, if I were Taylor's friend and I brought my two kids to her all white apartment, maybe she would rethink things and consider meeting at my place next time. I can't imagine she'd want kids there.

 

4/05/2017 1:27 pm  #4200


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Just saw on the FB page Momma June I on tomorrow. Someone please report back what hour, I need to hear how Taylor handles that lunatic child molester sympathizer! 

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