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11/10/2017 7:34 am  #571


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I don't think this has been raised here yet. Maybe T is under criminal investigation and that's why she's reluctant to talk.
It explains why Happiness Guru Carin Rockind is having a breakdown.
Maybe T went to all these people and was explicit trading services for radio time, and maybe that's illegal.
It also explains why the Sirius hosts are so careful about discussing products they and guests use, even why Jenny McCarthy backed out of a New Kids cruise.

To be clear, this is just my speculation. I have no knowledge of any such investigation.

 

11/10/2017 8:30 am  #572


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Think about all of the free advertising Pig Beach and the other restaurant got...and Ed’s Lobster Bar. I’m sure she never paid for her food or drinks there. Not that I wouldn’t have done the same thing for friends UNLESS my company had rules against it. In which case, I would have made it darned clear what I was doing.

 

11/10/2017 8:45 am  #573


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FKCSTMom wrote:

Think about all of the free advertising Pig Beach and the other restaurant got...and Ed’s Lobster Bar. I’m sure she never paid for her food or drinks there. Not that I wouldn’t have done the same thing for friends UNLESS my company had rules against it. In which case, I would have made it darned clear what I was doing.

My guess is that is was explicit, meaning she had conversations that the people would give her free services in exchange for her giving people air time.
I'm pretty sure that is illegal.

 

11/10/2017 9:42 am  #574


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WhereIsVictoria wrote:

I think we've brought up before the thought that maybe she's being investigated by the FCC for plugola/playola violations, so you're not alone! Wrongdoing like that would make sense of Matt ditching her, or at least not knowing what to do. I think above all it's obvious that she's not actually under any sort of gag order because she would be in violation of it to speak through other people, so the Emma and Taylor D posts kind of give it away. At least, in my troll-like, speculative opinion.

And I loved Steph and I thought she made the show bearable for a long time when I was losing interest in Taylor's constant self-loathing and Brett-admonishment and boasting about vacations. Ugh, the worst. Anyway, Steph brought structure and a third voice that I really think the show was lacking since Victoria moved on. I really, really used to love Cosmo Radio... the little segments they would do on cocktails and fashion and fitness and celebrity stuff were really on-brand for Cosmo, but without that, i think Wake Up failed to establish itself or brand itself. I'd say it came closest to a lifestyle category but the content was just Taylor's poor little rich girl schtick for the longest time... omg remember when she would boast about flying PJ (Private Jet)??? So basically, Steph tried to actually brand the show, I think, by creating structure and topics that weren't necessarily about The Es or how hard it is to be wealthy, and without her the show ultimately became just a few hours of Taylor screeching about all the people who've wronged her and how she wants to be a real housewife.

That said, I wish she would have tried her hand at comedy. Really, the Stupid Olympics were funny. Her fashion sense isn't really all there and I wouldn't say she should give anyone fashion advice. She sucked at health topics, women's issues, and everything else she claimed to represent. Even calling herself a WASP, she sucked at... you're Catholic, girl!! WASPS are Protestant! I feel like she's done as an entertainer though... she doesn't really offer any meaningful content.

This is such a great post. I share the same sentiments. Going the comedy route would have been something she could have pursued.  I do think she is funny, especially in the old days. Also, if it turns out she lost her career from all the has been stated, that is just so sad. Losing everything to pure greed and her love of money. 

 

11/10/2017 11:07 am  #575


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Ican'teveeeen wrote:

WhereIsVictoria wrote:

I think we've brought up before the thought that maybe she's being investigated by the FCC for plugola/playola violations, so you're not alone! Wrongdoing like that would make sense of Matt ditching her, or at least not knowing what to do. I think above all it's obvious that she's not actually under any sort of gag order because she would be in violation of it to speak through other people, so the Emma and Taylor D posts kind of give it away. At least, in my troll-like, speculative opinion.

And I loved Steph and I thought she made the show bearable for a long time when I was losing interest in Taylor's constant self-loathing and Brett-admonishment and boasting about vacations. Ugh, the worst. Anyway, Steph brought structure and a third voice that I really think the show was lacking since Victoria moved on. I really, really used to love Cosmo Radio... the little segments they would do on cocktails and fashion and fitness and celebrity stuff were really on-brand for Cosmo, but without that, i think Wake Up failed to establish itself or brand itself. I'd say it came closest to a lifestyle category but the content was just Taylor's poor little rich girl schtick for the longest time... omg remember when she would boast about flying PJ (Private Jet)??? So basically, Steph tried to actually brand the show, I think, by creating structure and topics that weren't necessarily about The Es or how hard it is to be wealthy, and without her the show ultimately became just a few hours of Taylor screeching about all the people who've wronged her and how she wants to be a real housewife.

That said, I wish she would have tried her hand at comedy. Really, the Stupid Olympics were funny. Her fashion sense isn't really all there and I wouldn't say she should give anyone fashion advice. She sucked at health topics, women's issues, and everything else she claimed to represent. Even calling herself a WASP, she sucked at... you're Catholic, girl!! WASPS are Protestant! I feel like she's done as an entertainer though... she doesn't really offer any meaningful content.

This is such a great post. I share the same sentiments. Going the comedy route would have been something she could have pursued.  I do think she is funny, especially in the old days. Also, if it turns out she lost her career from all the has been stated, that is just so sad. Losing everything to pure greed and her love of money. 

This says it all. She wanted to be famous with out the Real work. Her fashion tips were outdated and I wouldn't call her blog a "Fashion" blog. No consistency,just like the show was becoming. I think her bosses at Sirius realized that, as we heard her say they were always listening. She wanted something bigger, fast. She was clouded by fame and get rich tactics. She was so jealous of people she thought had it all (A.K.A talking shit about the E's, co-workers, ex- friends and boyfriends, all of whom she probably stalks on her instagram)  The business is a crazy place. Just be yourself, Taylor!

 

11/10/2017 11:07 am  #576


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I would love to read the Stephanie article. I'm not sure if she's brilliant or not, I don't know her. But she was not Ts competition, she could BARELY put three words together. She also didn't know a lot of common knowledge things (A little like T)  
I'm curious what T would do in comedy. I used to picture her on a tv show playing the spazzy friend...

 

 

11/10/2017 2:58 pm  #577


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When is the Philly show?

 

11/10/2017 3:33 pm  #578


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meepmeep wrote:

When is the Philly show?

 
Wednesday the 29th

 

11/13/2017 8:19 am  #579


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Forgive my ignorance, but I was just listening to Financially Fearless with Alexis and its basically a one hour promo for her website and her saying her Instagram over and over again.  She clearly benefits from it, hows that different than what Taylor did with the T&C trip?  

 

11/13/2017 8:35 am  #580


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I think its similar to Carin's getaway, or Kenny's comedy shows. They can advertise their side projects, the trip sounded like it was a Sirius (taping on the beach) event though.

So say someone went on Carin's trip, fell in the pool and drowned. Carin is liable as its her event, she would have insurance for stuff like that. If that happened on the WU trip, Sirius could be sued, but it looks like they weren't actually involved so wouldn't have the coverage in place for something like that.

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11/13/2017 8:38 am  #581


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I think there is a difference between promoting your Instagram or business and promoting something (a product, a hotel, whatever) from which you are being given free product and/or making money off of with no disclosure. IMO there is a fine line much of the time but it's been debating back and forth here quite a bit.

This is the FTC's guide to disclosures:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/ftcs-endorsement-guides-what-people-are-asking

"Say you’re planning a vacation. You do some research and find a glowing review on someone’s blog that a particular resort is the most luxurious place he has ever stayed. If you knew the hotel had paid the blogger hundreds of dollars to say great things about it or that the blogger had stayed there for several days for free, it could affect how much weight you’d give the blogger’s endorsement. The blogger should, therefore, let his readers know about that relationship."
 

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11/13/2017 8:39 am  #582


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PRECISELY wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but I was just listening to Financially Fearless with Alexis and its basically a one hour promo for her website and her saying her Instagram over and over again.  She clearly benefits from it, hows that different than what Taylor did with the T&C trip?  

 
I think because it was clearly the agreement with Sirius that she would do the show in order to promote her business- her business is the impetus for the show, not the other way around. And it's pretty obvious she's profiting when you go to her own website where I'm sure she spells out exactly what her services are and how much they cost. The trip was possibly not sanctioned by Sirius, and the way Taylor set it up between the e-mailing of CC info and exposure to liability for anything that happened on the trip is I think the biggest difference. As a financial advisor, Alexa is subject to tons of regulations on top of those from the FCC and I'm certain that when you sign up with her you receive all of those notices. I haven't listened to her show, but I'm willing to bet there are some disclaimers about financial advice played during the show. There were no disclaimers about anything (like "this trip is not affiliated with SiriusXM...") when Taylor advertised the show or on the info I received when I emailed about the trip. Oh, except no refunds. 🙄

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11/13/2017 10:22 am  #583


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So I had a dream last night that T and Carly were back on the radio and it was sooo real!  One of those sit up straight in the middle of the night...I gotta go post this on the board!  haha! Maybe I miss the show more than I thought???  Even though I've completely replaced her with other sirius shows.  Every day I'm impressed by the quality of other shows and interviewing skills.  I'm not sure why I listened to T except like the prior post said, it was just plain old habit.  maybe because of what a trainwreck it was?

 

11/13/2017 10:24 am  #584


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oh and I'd bet Alexa had it written into her contract that she would be promoting her book and website!  Talk about a smart chick, at least she comes across that way.   Her and even Dr Laura are super monotonous after awhile so I have a hard time listening to either.

 

11/13/2017 10:57 am  #585


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This isn't the same as what we're talking about but super interesting to me. Racked just did a huge project about all the free stuff they get sent and how it works basically.
https://www.racked.com/2017/11/13/16598676/swag-project

 

11/13/2017 11:37 am  #586


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Not sure if Matt is still working with tay or anything but he's at the very least still friendly w her. TD posted a pic of apple earbuds he got for her bday. I wasn't the biggest fan of Steph but I liked the segments in a way. They weren't just taking with a few random guests and visiting NYC restaurants 🙄 Didn't love the music one cuz I don't like her style and I think she partly wanted to make herself more a part of the on air crew (just a feeling I got from her) I did like throw back Thursday. I just think they did it wrong. Instead of 3 hours it could've been once an hour or fir a short time so that they could not use up every song in the category. & eventually they ended up with things like tbt to prom 🙄 Lol anyway I did miss the segments just as a short break from just talking about things we heard tay say already.
Also pretty sure she hasn't posted in like a week. Why bother saying hoping to have answers this week , every week  etc.? Just be silent or post regularly, that's what I would do.
Don't think she's doing a podcast either because it should not take this long to get started. I have a friend from college and she decided to start a podcast & it only took her some time to buy decent starting equipment but not a month from her decision. Plus tay theoretically has the $ to buy some recording equipment andTD may even have some stuff since she does videography. She could even help her do a YouTube channel. Idk.

 

11/13/2017 11:46 am  #587


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Perhaps I am "doing it" wrong, but I think neither of the Taylors follow him on IG and he doesn't follow either of the Taylors (But I'm really bad at the Instagram, so it's entirely possible I stalked wrong)

 

11/13/2017 11:51 am  #588


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secco wrote:

Perhaps I am "doing it" wrong, but I think neither of the Taylors follow him on IG and he doesn't follow either of the Taylors (But I'm really bad at the Instagram, so it's entirely possible I stalked wrong)

No, they all follow each other still. IG has been wonky lately, so may not have shown up well!
 

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11/13/2017 5:30 pm  #589


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kbk88 wrote:

This isn't the same as what we're talking about but super interesting to me. Racked just did a huge project about all the free stuff they get sent and how it works basically.
https://www.racked.com/2017/11/13/16598676/swag-project

This was really interesting! Of course, my boring accounting brain went to the tax implications of all this. The companies giving the gifts can only deduct a business gift expense of $25/recipient annually, and tracking that is a nightmare (I used to have to do it when I worked at a mortgage company). On the recipient's end, certain things considered "fringe benefits" should be taxed. Obviously these transactions are all very fuzzy and difficult to trace, but I can't help but wonder if bringing attention to it with stories like this will catch the eye of an auditor somewhere.
 


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11/13/2017 10:10 pm  #590


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I've always wondered about this. I know someone that blogs and receives shipments daily. To the point that she has an entire room in her apartment dedicated to just cosmetics. NO JOke.  She sells stuff after she posts about it through poshmark or another site and from what I can tell nothing is taxed, yet is substantial in her income. I'm afraid to write off a burger so of course part of me is sitting here with my popcorn waiting to hear a bunch of these fashion bloggers are being targeted for undocumented income. 

 

11/14/2017 9:45 am  #591


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Did you guys see that now the live show is Emma and Anthony(of the property cousins I think) and not Carly?

 

11/14/2017 9:48 am  #592


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Anthony Carrino of kitchen cousins.

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11/14/2017 9:58 am  #593


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This will be Taylor's our for not going.
Taylor "So....if I don't have a job and haven't come up with a good story, I might not be able to go, legally ya know?!?"
Carly "Oh hell, I'm jumping ship before we have to deal with an angry mob!"
Emma "......."

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11/14/2017 10:03 am  #594


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FKFriday wrote:

This will be Taylor's our for not going.
Taylor "So....if I don't have a job and haven't come up with a good story, I might not be able to go, legally ya know?!?"
Carly "Oh hell, I'm jumping ship before we have to deal with an angry mob!"
Emma "......."

It looks like Taylor is headlining the show - I wonder what sort of contractual agreement she has with the club/if there's a penalty if she doesn't show up? The lineup is already a little awkward, an HGTV guy, a comedian, and a washed up radio host? They're both great in their own right, but I don't see a show with just Emma and Anthony being much of a draw.
 


I might be from the Sunshine State, but I can still be a little shady.🌴
 

11/14/2017 10:09 am  #595


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It's so awful, I'm off today and was planning on being out early to put the Christmas stuff up outside. Nope, in bed with coffee watching FB implode 😂

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11/14/2017 10:12 am  #596


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If she tells them she legally can't speak in public (which seems to be the story she's sticking to) can they really do anything? I guess places like that have real lawyers though, and not IG team "I watched Law & Order" lawyers and could call her out pretty quickly.

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11/14/2017 10:20 am  #597


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FKFriday wrote:

 
If she tells them she legally can't speak in public (which seems to be the story she's sticking to) can they really do anything? I guess places like that have real lawyers though, and not IG team "I watched Law & Order" lawyers and could call her out pretty quickly.

Hm yeah, and I'm pretty sure her getting herself into a situation where she "can't speak publicly" isn't Helium's problem. If she can't because Sirius let her go just because of reformatting or whatever (not for cause), and as part of her severance package there was some sort of non-compete that precludes her from doing the show, if she or her "manager" have two brain cells to rub together they should have made Sirius buy her out of her obligation with Helium as part of the agreement. If she was fired for cause and as a result can't speak, she's got herself in a pretty pickle.
 


I might be from the Sunshine State, but I can still be a little shady.🌴
 

11/14/2017 10:26 am  #598


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Soooo....Carly appears to have jumped ship, eh? That is fascinating, I'm dying to know why!!! This situation just gets weirder and weirder..... 


Life's a bitch...and so am I.
 

11/14/2017 10:36 am  #599


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I wonder if Nati & CCC have seen the news yet 😳

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11/14/2017 10:46 am  #600


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Nati just found out!!! K, I really got these Christmas lights hung.....someone send up a secco beam in the sky if things get good!

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