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PRECISELY · 5/10/2018 10:38 am

I know Taylor casually mentions she did not get along with a sister or two of Brett's...just every so often...But all she has ever said is they tortured her. I actually want to know, does anyone remember a specific story they did that was actually mean? Even if it's story of them being mean according to "her" truth.
I know she has one about the SIL wanting a different bridesmaid dress because it was a special day for her. Which I don't completely disagree with. A big wedding is about family, and if my brother was getting married, it would be a special day for me to watch my brother get married. If you don't like it, elope. I'm not saying her wedding should be all about the SIL, but somehow I don't think Taylor was just the most considerate bride.
But really, does anyone know a single story?

PRECISELY · 5/10/2018 10:53 am

Her level of jealously is kinda cray-cray. Just because she 'owns' it doesn't make it OK, right? I hope to raise my kids to never compare themselves to other people and be proud of themselves and anything worth their time is worth doing well. But she thinks I know i'm jealous, so its OK to not work harder to accomplish.

TurkeyLeg · 5/10/2018 11:35 am

I think I remember her mentioning that she would go to dinners and no one would speak to or acknowledge her. Am I remembering correctly? That had to have been really awkward and uncomfortable, but like always, we only ever heard T's side of the story.

Durst_Burp · 5/10/2018 11:42 am

Other than the bridesmaid dress thing, the only other examples I can think of are when she said they were having dinner and wouldn’t talk to her, and when one of them sent her & brett an email scolding them for instagramming their dinner at four seasons. Honestly nothing she’s ever said about them sounds THAT bad, definitely not divorce worthy. I think she played more of a role in the situation than she’ll ever admit.

Bethenny_Was_So_Rude · 5/10/2018 12:15 pm

My theory is that things between Taylor and the two oldest sisters were fine (maybe not great, but at least civil) until TAYLOR told Brett the rumor about how Jessie and the middle one slept with the same guy, Jessie's now-husband. After Brett blabbed this news to his family (which, in my opinion, was really shitty of him), I think the damage was irrevocable, the sisters hated Taylor, and it became a situation where they simply ganged up together to freeze her out at all their family gatherings. I don't think Taylor was necessarily the victim of some brutal, torturous act... it was probably just lots of snarky comments and/or "ignoring" her at the dinner table.

Hawr-rible · 5/10/2018 12:25 pm

Wow, tough question when it comes to the SILs..... I don't remember hearing much about them back in the day- I did not used to listen to the show all that often. I'd catch parts when I was driving in the car, and it wasn't until I had the Sirius app that I started listening more often. Back then, she used to refer to them as "friends" who were mean to her, since she was still married. So I always thought she just had these super bitchy friends, and it wasn't until I found the Pink Pages that I had any idea most of the stories she told were about Brett's sisters. (I was amazed at how much the people on this board could figure out; I was so in the dark about everything, lol). So it's hard for me to know what stories were about them, and which were about actual friends. But no, I don't remember hearing anything all that bad- except the bridesmaid dresses thing, that is pretty bitch-y, I don't think I could handle an in-law who would do that.....

Hawr-rible · 5/10/2018 12:28 pm

Durst_Burp wrote:
Other than the bridesmaid dress thing, the only other examples I can think of are when she said they were having dinner and wouldn’t talk to her, and when one of them sent her & brett an email scolding them for instagramming their dinner at four seasons. Honestly nothing she’s ever said about them sounds THAT bad, definitely not divorce worthy. I think she played more of a role in the situation than she’ll ever admit.

And perhaps she had an inkling as to her true sexuality (although she claims not to have) and they were a great excuse to get out of the marriage? I know she VEHEMENTLY denies that, but come on, she was friends with Taylor D. when her and Brett were still together....I think she knew she was into her before the divorce. But I could be wrong.

FKFriday · 5/10/2018 12:47 pm

I really don't think there was anything the sisters did. Taylor talks about them enough, and she is queen of the repeat story, we would have for sure heard something by now of an actual event.

SoftPretzels · 5/10/2018 1:15 pm

I think it wasn’t anything super major but enough little things add up to be a lot. It would be easy to get over or grit your way through if you only see the family occasionally. But it seemed like incorporating family in most events was a requirement in the E-household. Passive aggression and gaslighting can wear on a person.

If I lived near my husband’s family we’d be divorced by now.

PRECISELY · 5/10/2018 1:40 pm

I can get on board with that. If I lived near my in laws, I'm not sure I would make it. Small things over time just add up.

FlyOverState · 5/10/2018 2:20 pm

I will say that having a mother in law who spent a few months not acknowledging me (even went as far as to ask me to not sit in the family row at a wedding - though she later denied this) while I was 4 months pregnant if my husband had not finally stepped in and stood up for me I doubt I would still be married. Being treated like you don't exist is not fun and if your SO isn't on your side, I can see where there would be issues. I do think she probably played a bigger role than she admits though.

SympathyRoids · 5/10/2018 2:27 pm

Hawr-rible wrote:
Durst_Burp wrote:
Other than the bridesmaid dress thing, the only other examples I can think of are when she said they were having dinner and wouldn’t talk to her, and when one of them sent her & brett an email scolding them for instagramming their dinner at four seasons. Honestly nothing she’s ever said about them sounds THAT bad, definitely not divorce worthy. I think she played more of a role in the situation than she’ll ever admit.
And perhaps she had an inkling as to her true sexuality (although she claims not to have) and they were a great excuse to get out of the marriage? I know she VEHEMENTLY denies that, but come on, she was friends with Taylor D. when her and Brett were still together....I think she knew she was into her before the divorce. But I could be wrong.

👆🏻100%.

I’m convinced Taylor and TD were a thing before divorce and separation from Brett. I think her constant chatter about his family being to blame for their divorce is bullshit. She wanted out of marriage because she wanted to be with TD.

HeatherW · 5/10/2018 2:56 pm

I think it's easy for Taylor to blame the in-laws for everything, and maybe she's now convinced herself that was the main reason. But really, her relationship with Brett was the problem. He couldn't put her first in his life and she couldn't give an inch for any reason at all. She always seemed to idolize his sisters, but it sounded like he did too, and that jealousy she felt became toxic. Maybe those girls tried to freeze her out, but we don't know why they did so. She trashed talked Brett all the time on air so maybe they didn't like how she treated him. Or maybe they were really just mean girls. It's also possible that Taylor started realizing she had feelings for TD, but I think they would have ended anyway.

youcaaango · 5/10/2018 2:56 pm

She used to complain about how they would get mad if she didn't like their Instagram posts enough or quickly enough. That seems petty but not enough to warrant the constant bashing. Plus there's the other Jessie (not the SIL) who was tied up with those girls and seems like there was real beef there. Wasn't she Brett's best friend and had to be included in the wedding party? I'm sure there was some jealousy there on both sides.

Hawr-rible · 5/10/2018 6:11 pm

HeatherW wrote:
I think it's easy for Taylor to blame the in-laws for everything, and maybe she's now convinced herself that was the main reason. But really, her relationship with Brett was the problem. He couldn't put her first in his life and she couldn't give an inch for any reason at all. She always seemed to idolize his sisters, but it sounded like he did too, and that jealousy she felt became toxic. Maybe those girls tried to freeze her out, but we don't know why they did so. She trashed talked Brett all the time on air so maybe they didn't like how she treated him. Or maybe they were really just mean girls. It's also possible that Taylor started realizing she had feelings for TD, but I think they would have ended anyway.

The mean talking about Brett on the show- fantastic point! If it were my brother get talked about they way Tay used to talk about Brett sometimes, would have gotten under my skin, too, if it were my brother. I had never thought about that before....

Siriusnj · 5/10/2018 8:17 pm

How would you feel about your brother's wife if she refused to help him go to the hospital?

Dunkinaddict · 5/10/2018 8:51 pm

Siriusnj wrote:
How would you feel about your brother's wife if she refused to help him go to the hospital?

Wait did Taylor do this?

piopio12 · 5/10/2018 9:14 pm

Dunkinaddict wrote:
Siriusnj wrote:
How would you feel about your brother's wife if she refused to help him go to the hospital?

Wait did Taylor do this?

When he had appendicitis. I am the asshole wife who would tell my husband that he just has gas and to suck it up. So I give her pass for that one. Hindsight 20/20 😹😹😹

GoldenShower · 5/11/2018 9:29 am

I remember her telling a story about how she took a friend out to a nightclub with all of the sisters and the friend left in tears because the girls were so mean. To me it sounded like they were judgey girls and Taylor felt she couldn't keep up. They were raised with more money than her, which seems to be her ultimate measure of success. Sounded like a lot of projection on Taylors part, I'm sure they were snobby as any wealthy girls in manhattan can be, but I think she took a lot to heart. It's funny because they are who she wants to be, but she doesn't/didn't have the money to back it up so she decided to hate them instead.

Hawr-rible · 5/11/2018 12:26 pm

GoldenShower wrote:
I remember her telling a story about how she took a friend out to a nightclub with all of the sisters and the friend left in tears because the girls were so mean. To me it sounded like they were judgey girls and Taylor felt she couldn't keep up. They were raised with more money than her, which seems to be her ultimate measure of success. Sounded like a lot of projection on Taylors part, I'm sure they were snobby as any wealthy girls in manhattan can be, but I think she took a lot to heart. It's funny because they are who she wants to be, but she doesn't/didn't have the money to back it up so she decided to hate them instead.

I think you are right on with that theory....

Ilovemydogs · 5/12/2018 6:01 pm

It wasn't just the in laws either... the dad was also an dbag. He like, screamed at her and said horrible things because she didn't want to go to a birthday dinner.... he's probably not a great guy since he was convicted of a crime and served time in prison too. They aren't that great of people if he's willing to do some of the stuff he did in his business.I don't think it helped that Brett wouldn't stand up to his family and just did whatever they wanted, no matter what his wife wanted. He tried to force her to go to things when she didn't want to and didn't tell them, no you don't treat my wife well, why would we go to dinner every Sunday? He loved his family more then he loved his wife.

It's also not OK for a sister of the groom to tell the bride what dress she wants to wear. I'm sure if someone did that to her, she'd FREAK out. Its NOT your wedding. I don't care if you're the family, it's just not. your. wedding. When it's your wedding, it's your day, your event. It'd be one thing if she forced them to wear awful sister wife dresses that cost tons of money.... but, I doubt the dresses were that hideous. I told my bridesmaids, who were just my sister, his sister, and 2 friends, wear whatever you want as long as it's blue. If they came to me and said no, blues not my color, I'd rather wear green, I'd have a big problem with that. Sorry, not your wedding, not your choice.

FKCSTMom · 5/13/2018 1:03 pm

Ilovemydogs wrote:
It wasn't just the in laws either... the dad was also an dbag. He like, screamed at her and said horrible things because she didn't want to go to a birthday dinner.... he's probably not a great guy since he was convicted of a crime and served time in prison too. They aren't that great of people if he's willing to do some of the stuff he did in his business.I don't think it helped that Brett wouldn't stand up to his family and just did whatever they wanted, no matter what his wife wanted. He tried to force her to go to things when she didn't want to and didn't tell them, no you don't treat my wife well, why would we go to dinner every Sunday? He loved his family more then he loved his wife.

It's also not OK for a sister of the groom to tell the bride what dress she wants to wear. I'm sure if someone did that to her, she'd FREAK out. Its NOT your wedding. I don't care if you're the family, it's just not. your. wedding. When it's your wedding, it's your day, your event. It'd be one thing if she forced them to wear awful sister wife dresses that cost tons of money.... but, I doubt the dresses were that hideous. I told my bridesmaids, who were just my sister, his sister, and 2 friends, wear whatever you want as long as it's blue. If they came to me and said no, blues not my color, I'd rather wear green, I'd have a big problem with that. Sorry, not your wedding, not your choice.

Since you sound like one of Taylor's family members (or one of the BBs), your viewpoint seems a little skewed.

I will give you that perhaps Brett didn't stand up for Taylor like a husband should in a marriage, but I don't think Taylor stepped ONE TOE over the line of fairness. They never (according to her) did alternating holidays or tried to maintain some sort of 'couple-ness'. To use Babette's own line, I think Taylor was 'Just Jealous,' from the start, of the whole family. (I can't say that I wouldn't have been, of certain aspects, of the same thing.) But we all know, if you've listened for 10 years, that Taylor is jealous of anyone who is skinny or rich. Period. She talks about it DAILY. And if you've listened for 10 years, you know that Taylor herself was skinny AND rich herself but didn't realize it because someone else was skinnier and richer at the time. She was never happy. (Remember, this is all coming from Taylor herself, not me. She talked about this on the radio...except for the JJ part).

Longtimelistener · 5/13/2018 1:41 pm

I actually don’t think the PP is unreasonable or sounds like a BB. I think she makes valid points and certainly isn’t painting Taylor as a victim. None of us know these players IRL, but man both sides (Taylor and her ex-family) just don’t sound like genuine authentic people. And there are plenty of those in the world.

Rescuemom1732 · 5/13/2018 8:31 pm

“And if you've listened for 10 years, you know that Taylor herself was skinny AND rich herself but didn't realize it because someone else was skinnier and richer at the time.”- FkCSTMOM.

Holy moly! Hit the nail on the head!

Durst_Burp · 9/21/2018 2:24 pm

I’m home sick today so I’ve got some extra creeping time on my hands. Found Erika’s wedding album if anyone cares-

https://www.thedaycollective.com/the-journal/wedding-stories/erika-jordan/

Dunkinaddict · 9/21/2018 9:23 pm

WhereIsVictoria wrote:
I think the pizza periscope showed that Taylor is as snobby as they come... I don’t think she has a leg to stand on calling anybody else snobby. She exaggerates and tells stories in such a way to make her seem like a victim. For example... the story about the wedding of the century and how her selfish friend got mad at her for not spending the whole weekend in the phone with her. 🙄 So we don’t know what dress Taylor had picked out... I thought I remembered her saying none of the bridesmaids liked her first and second choices. Including Taylor’s sister. At the time I thought, “not your wedding, just wear the damn thing” but combine Taylor’s questionable taste with her desire to make other people look bad to make herself look better and... 🤷‍♀️Damn I hope we don’t end up with Bananas In Pajamas Get Married in a couple of years... 😂😂😂

Can someone please explain the pizza periscope? I am a long time listener but somehow missed this story. Thanks 😊

secco · 9/21/2018 10:15 pm

Durst_Burp wrote:
I’m home sick today so I’ve got some extra creeping time on my hands. Found Erika’s wedding album if anyone cares-

https://www.thedaycollective.com/the-journal/wedding-stories/erika-jordan/

Wow, so many thoughts!
1. That ring.... DAMN.
2. The sisters look so much like their dad!
3. Brett has his dad's eyes, but otherwise I think that at one point he must have been the sibling who looked more like his mom. (which brings me to...)
4. Jeezum-Frickin-Petes, talk about being botoxed to within an inch of their lives... the moms :-/
5. JE's husband does actually look like a total bro/box of rocks.
6. TS can talk about how "evil" that family is all she wants, but they obviously really love each other. I'm especially jealous of the sisters' closeness.
7. The last picture in the album is really cool.

Durst_Burp · 9/22/2018 7:09 am

All good observations, I agree. Lol for all we know Brett did look just like his mom before she got all that work done.

FKCSTMom · 9/23/2018 9:59 am

My “so many thoughts!!”
1. Their lives have gone on without giving Taylor a second thought and they are obviously living happily ever after. Good for them!
2. I hope that adorable blonde girl smiling and sitting next to Brett at the reception is someone special in his life. He deserves it.
3. Holy crap...the male half of the wedding party looks like a GQ cover shot! Especially the pic with the aviator sunglasses on!
4. What is it with rich guys wearing high water pants and slippers at their weddings? One of the other sisters did that too...(looks both douchey and comfy though!).
5. That’s the first wedding I’ve ever seen where the bridesmaids wore white too. I’m still debating how much I liked it...not that my opinion matters! Lol I do love black and white weddings...
6. It was also interesting that she had fewer bridesmaids than there were groomsmen...(and less than Paige!)
7. Aspen is such a beautiful place to get married!
8. Wow on the ring too!

Good job Epstein family!

Durst_Burp · 9/23/2018 11:37 am

My sister did all white bridesmaid dresses. It wasn’t my fave.