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This is the email I sent to Kenny in response to his show this morning.
I would have taken a screenshot, but it was too long. All responses below, as well as what he posted in his group about it, that was shared with me by a friend because Kenny kicked me out of the group before I sent the email.
Kenny-
I made the decision to copy your post to the pink pages because #1 if I had paraphrased and posted something like “Kenny is going to spill the tea about his Sirius coworkers tomorrow!”, that would have put more of a negative spin on it and people would have really gone nuts with their theories. I thought the best way to spin-proof it was to just use your own words. If I hadn’t brought it up on that page I can guarantee you someone else would have and who knows what they would have said. #2 My intentions were good. You’ve talked about how you want the show to grow, and I knew this would get you some new subs (which it did). I was also genuinely curious who people thought you would talk about - I really didn’t think you would talk about Taylor (I said so on the page).
As far as why we talk about your show on a page for Taylor and you wanting to separate yourself - that page may have started for Wake Up, but it has evolved into a place where we talk about all things related to the old show/Taylor, as well as plenty of stuff not related at all. There are whole threads on totally unrelated podcasts and TV shows. A discussion was started about your show for the sole purpose of promoting it because we were all so excited to listen to you again. The very first post on that thread is a link to your Patreon and excitement that you were back. I made several supportive comments there as well, but I don’t suppose you took the time to read those.
And I’m well aware of IP addresses. I’ve used them myself to find out who other users are over the years. The only time I mask mine is when I want to watch the BBC because you need a UK IP to watch their shows online. I’m really not that concerned about total anonymity because as you said, it’s just a radio show so I don’t bother masking when I post there. I’m not in any other Facebook groups so it doesn’t really matter if I’m “outed”. In fact for years myself and several other posters had our real names, photos and locations up on that board. We stopped doing that when we started getting creepy users sign up who clearly had nothing to do with the show. It’s still very easy to figure out who I am on that page even without an IP- I’m sometimes on a podcast with another listener, which we talk about on the pink pages, and my identity is fully revealed if you listen to that pod. I’m really not trying that hard to hide.
Given all of our positive interactions and how supportive I’ve been of your show, I’m shocked you immediately assumed the worst of my post. I’ve been a listener since 2008, kinda bummed this is how it’s going to end. Best wishes for you & the show.
-Scentsy is a Pyramid Scheme
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Any respect that I may have had for Mr. Zimmlinghaus is now null and void.
You folks have given him nothing but love here.
He came in swinging, and all of you were still polite. Hats off to Poppy for mentioning that he may need to dial it back a bit.
He apparently does not care for some of his fan base, and has shown his true colors.
Durst, you were not in the wrong.
I could go on and on. But, he obviously could care less. And, my time is too valuable to play verbal gymnastics with someone who can dish it and not take it.
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Karma wrote:
Any respect that I may have had for Mr. Zimmlinghaus is now null and void.
You folks have given him nothing but love here.
He came in swinging, and all of you were still polite. Hats off to Poppy for mentioning that he may need to dial it back a bit.
He apparently does not care for some of his fan base, and has shown his true colors.
Durst, you were not in the wrong.
I could go on and on. But, he obviously could care less. And, my time is to valuable to play verbal gymnastics with someone who can dish it and not take it.
I hate that I agree with you, this all seemed to have come out of nowhere and is just so odd. I still can't get my head around these emails, they are crazy vicious. Maybe something else going on with him?
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I wonder if he’s going through some things personally and it has caused him to take some of DB’s posts different-than-intended.
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SoftPretzels wrote:
I wonder if he’s going through some things personally and it has caused him to take some of DB’s posts different-than-intended.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me, but a lot of the comments on other pages are not surprised with the way he snapped and that's he always had a bit of a mean girl streak. It seems so over the top though, I just can't imagine getting that worked up, especially after she apologized.
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What is it that Taylor always says, “when people show you their true colors, believe them!”
I have found this whole disintegration to be unexpected and disheartening. I really longed for the old days of WU, I loved that dynamic. I have been a bit bored by taylor for a bit but loved listening to Kenny here and there. I’ll have to unsubscribe now, because this fan interaction is completely ludicrous.
Now to be a little sappy.
Taylor and her cohosts always talk about the community she has built. It sounds silly sometimes, but damn it could not be more true! And I’m not even touching the BBs- I have some great troll friends that I met here, and that only happened because of her (and Kenny, tangentially). I talk to a few people on here more than I do my own friends and family. We support each other and Pep talk each other in many ways - Cindy’s podcast for example, or checking in on Karma when the hurricanes came through.
So he can think we are evil, or frollls but quite honestly, f**k him. He was lucky to have our support in his new venture, but now he can kiss my ass.
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Wow...I think I take back what I just wrote about him in another post...his replies to you are very defensive. Like, really worked up over nothing. You were trying to basically market his show to us by giving us a teaser. It seriously made me consider subbing. (I didnt even know he had a show outside of the one with Wider). But man he blew it out of proportion. So sad.
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It’s whatever at this point. It’s not like I’ve lost an actual friend or anything, and I could still listen if I really wanted to. The only reason I emailed him was because he and I have chatted back and forth here and there in the past, and it’s a really crappy feeling to think someone is being that too faced, so even if he was still going to be mad at me for re-posting, which would be fair enough, I at least wanted him to know my intent. There’s literally no reason for me to lie about it, and I don’t really care if he believes me or not.
But I would like it if anyone can point me in the direction of anything negative I’ve ever said about him. I’m genuinely confused by that claim, because there’s never been a time when I wasn’t a fan of his so I can’t imagine what I would have said. I even looked back through my old posts but didn’t see anything. 🤷🏼♀️ I will fully own whatever I said.
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DB, it's clear you came on here to promote getting subscribers to his podcast. I wouldn't have known about it nor looked into signing up if you didn't. You're intentions were good there. I guess you weren't supposed to tell others what was going to be on his show because it was in a closed group?
While I don't post much, I've listened since 2009, and have been on here for a few years now. When he addressed me in a fragmented sentence and then proceeded to go off on someone else with such poor grammar I was confused and just thought it was someone pretending to be him. When confirmed it was him, well that was too weird that someone would go off like that. There are better ways of defending yourself. When reflecting on what I've read on this forum, I think when he's spoken about it was mostly positive, or at worst, indifferent.
I won't be subscribing to paid content of his and I've unsubscribed to other things. Let people have their closed Facebook groups and closed subscription groups and build up a fan-base or whatever they are trying to do that way.
I know me not wanting to support him now doesn't change anything. I'm just one person in Indiana and not someone he'd want as a fan anyway, apparently.
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We like to operate with receipts here in the basement as much as possible, so here they are. I searched Kenny’s name on all 54 pages of my posts, because I truly do not recall talking shit about him. These are any posts by me that I thought could possibly be construed as negative. I’ve even included two extremely supportive posts from the past just to make my point. If all of the below makes me a shit talking Kenny hater, well then fuck me I guess.
Feel free to fact check me- you can click on my name, then click on “show all posts”.
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When I saw your post I immediately went and subscribed so I could hear what he had to say. I’m sorry you’re getting the brunt of it all. Maybe after the episode was said and done he felt guilty and projected to everyone else. I will be unsubscribing as well
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This whole shake down makes me feel icky. Durst, I’m sorry you got put on blast like this out of a misinterpretation of intention. You’ve been very supportive of KZs show and it has to sting to be mislabeled as a shit stirrer (at least in regards to this 😜)
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I mean, he was still going pretty hard in his group on the issue yesterday, and he appears to have his own set of BBs too...
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I was actually so shocked and baffled by all of this. When I found out who “that girl” was it made me physically ill. All of the great feelings I always had for Kenny...all of the years of supporting him went right out the window. He was awful. I’m so sorry DB. You deserved none of that. We love you ❤️❤️❤️
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So_Anyways wrote:
What’s his group name on FB?
Zimlingshow
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FKCSTMom wrote:
I was actually so shocked and baffled by all of this. When I found out who “that girl” was it made me physically ill. All of the great feelings I always had for Kenny...all of the years of supporting him went right out the window. He was awful. I’m so sorry DB. You deserved none of that. We love you ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Mom. You’re a treasure. ❤️
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I was pretty neutral on KZ. I was sad when he left WUWT but I adjusted quickly and never gave him much thought. I briefly considered subscribing to his podcast but held off. After reading and hearing (with a friend) all of the layers of this story... I am so happy I never plucked down my $3 .... or 1/2 a latte to subscribe. Honestly. When I read DB’s repost I almost subscribed so I could listen and give Kenny a try. But when he went crazy on the PP I held off. Now... holy moly! DB has been his biggest fan and supporter and he jumped all over her. I’m totally shocked. What a waste. He could have cashed in with a bunch of new subscribers. Instead he will be off the minds of many of us by next week when the next drama unfolds.
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Rescuemom for some reason your post helped me connect these dots- I think the reason he was so triggered by my post is because it implies, in a way I suppose, that people are only interested in him when he has something to say about Taylor/WakeUp, not just him on his own. And the fact that he took digs @ the people who only subscribed after I posted that, several times both on his page and the show, I think supports that theory.
I didn’t really think of it that way until just now. But even so, subscribers are subscribers right? 🤷🏼♀️
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Bingo! He feels irrelevant because after he moved on from WU, he didn't really have the kind of career or followers that made him feel important anymore. He doesn't deserve your support Durst
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Maybe he wants to not forever be connected in people's minds to Taylor, but his whole podcast setup relies on people remembering him from Wake Up. He's asking people to pay and for that you need to have an already existing audience willing to do so. I seriously doubt that it's non-wakeup fans of his standup that are subscribing. And he baited people with secrets from his past at Sirius. If he didn't want all this and to be reminded that Taylor really was the one people were interested in, he shouldn't have talked about it at all. He could have talked about the Babchick thing without bringing up Wake Up.
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I am also one of the baffled and shocked people by all of this. His over-reaction is just so out there, it really makes me wonder what is going on causing him to freak out like this. Even seeing some of the comments about removing people from his facebook group as soon as they unsubscribe - it's all just very strange. I hope things are OK with Mr. Mans because this is not normal adult behavior.
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This really is a bad take on Kenny's part. I've kept following him out of a sense of obligation or something - perhaps hoping that a little of the old magic from the Cosmo days would come back and I would remember why I thought him funny or clever. Alas, I'm done now. I went to his stand up shows and I think I even contributed to his GoFundMe for that dumb movie. I defended him here and elsewhere when all the crap was going down at Sirius.
He owes you an apology, DB.
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Thanks YCG. I forgot all about that GFM, and I went to a couple of his live shows too. It’s unfortunate how this went down, but no sense crying over spilled milk and it made room in the lineup for some new pods I probably wouldn’t have tried otherwise. 😊